The Great Energy Debate
On November 18, 2019, a group of energy experts came together at TUDelft in the Netherlands and Imperial College London in the UK for a 90-minute livestreamed debate on the future of energy.
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The Great Energy Debate 2019 Highlights
Title: The Great Energy Debate : Highlights
Duration : 4:33 minutes
This video shows the highlights of The Great Energy Debate that took place in November 2019. They discuss climate change and how fossil fuel companies and renewables can deal with the climate change challenges the world faces.
The Great Energy Debate : Highlights Transcript
[Background music plays]
Panelist interviews with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and? Visscher.
I think we need to go faster and do more implementation in the industry.
We see five speakers sat on a small stage surrounded by an audience we cut to shots of the speakers and the audience. There is a screen behind the speakers with the Great Energy Debate written upon it. This stands in front of blue curtains.
We can make a significant contribution to the net zero target that the world is after.
We will not get there by harmonising with nature, but by modernising.
Camera sweeps across the front of the audience members. The Great Energy Debate Logo is displayed on boards in front of the seated, theatre style seating. The look is that of a television studio with a live audience. Shots of the audience are intercut with the speakers.
I see technology and engineering delivering affordable and accessible electricity to all.
A video montage over rising music bed. Shots of cities at night and during the day in timelapse. People moving, cars driving through shot. We see Paulien Herder in the shot as we track around her from a low angle. Followed by shots of windmills on a mountain surrounded by clouds, People walking from above with Paulien in Voice Over then the we cut to Paulien stood in the studio where the debate is held with empty chairs behind them before the debate.
The most important thing in tackling climate change is to start acting now.
Urgency. Go ahead and make practical steps to reduce CO2 emissions in our energy mix.
We see people working on tablets and smart televisions. Followed by a low angle shot of Marco Visscher on the porch of a house and imagery of power plants with? talking in VO. Before cutting back to Marco stood in the empty studio.
We need to be open for all kinds of technological solutions including nuclear power including CCS.
Close up footage of Ozak Esu outside with blurred background and a shot of a control room with graphics and unreadable text of the power station schematics building over the top. With Ozak speaking in voice over before cutting to an interview with Ozak in front of the empty studio seating.
Using the benefits and harnessing the benefits of technology and engineering a lot of solutions and innovations are being developed across the world.
We cut between the speakers as they deliver their lines. We slowly track inwards as they speak from head and shoulders. Marco Visscher is against the background of a bookshelves, Ozak Esu is agains a background of houses and trees, Paulien Herder is stood in front of an industrial space.
Maarten Wetselaar delivers his line stood in front of a green park like space with a fence running through it.
The Great Energy Debate.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London. ?
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We track through the audience from left to right as they applaud and hear Remel London in voice over. We then cut to a long shot of the panel sat in the centre of the theatre style seating in the television studio. We then cut to the words The Great Energy Debate appearing on the screen on a blue background with white lines.
Welcome to the Great Energy Debate.
We then cut to Remel London walking through the audience with an IPad in her hand. We can see the panel in the top right of the shot as she walks towards them.
Let’s get talking guys, this is from Vicky van der Togt and they are saying shall we not ban fossil fuels altogether?
We cut to Marco Visscher in close up on the panel. He wears a flowery, yellow shirt and the back ground is dark. This cuts to Marco speaking in a wide shot featuring the rest of the panel with the TUDelft logo built in 3D in the background and the rest of the panel seated next to him. A screen shows the audience above the panel in the left of frame. We see the close up again and then a shot from in the audience, as if sitting in a seat in the audience with heads between our view and the panel.
80 per cent of the world’s energy comes from fossil fuels and there is no energy source readily available to scale up, to take over that role now. Nuclear power maybe, I am very much in favour of nuclear.
Shot of a seated young audience member asking a question looking direct towards us holding a microphone. With a presenter with an ipad and red jacket standing next to her surrounded by other seated audience members.
How can we transition in countries that are still not in the grid without going through the fossil fuel path and just going straight to the renewables so that they don't have to have this debate in 20 years time?
Shot of Ozak Esu sat next to Marco Visscher on the panel. Then cuts to Paulien Herder and Maarten Wetselaar sat listening.
I definitely think that micro grids is a definite way for places like Nigeria to move forward with energy solving the about accessibility.
Vox Pop of young audience member.
A vox pop style shot of a young audience member in front of a screen with white speech. Bubbles. It cuts to images of the Paulien Herder and Maarten Wetselaar sat together then a close up of Ozak Esu in session as he completes his interview.
[Second Audience Member]
The best thing about the Great Energy Debate was seeing companies and activists on the same table discussing a very relevant subject: climate change and energy transition.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London, continues.
There is a close up of the presenter Remel London with the audience in the background asking the question.
Many people think this isn't a debate and believe the only solution to the climate emergency is ban Shell from existence.
We have a close up of Maarten Wetselaar sat in his position in the panel, head and shoulders with a black background.
I think the key trick is to leverage the skill and scale of that company to speed up the energy transition, rather than to ban the company.
Second Vox Pop of young audience member.
A vox pop style shot of a young audience member in front of a screen with white speech. Bubbles. It cuts to images of an audience member with a beard talking on a microphone in head and shoulders. Then a wider shot with a presenter Georgie Barrat in a red jacket and a second audience member talking to a microphone in a wide shot with other members of the audience sat around.
[Third Audience Member]
I thought the nicest part was the interactive part of it.
We cut to a close shot of the second audience member talking to the microphone. We then see two wide shots of the whole audience raising green and red paddles up. Then a shot of the Fourth Audience member in a Vox Pop style shot from waist to head in front of the speech bubbles.
[Fourth Audience Member]
It made the audience feel engaged and made me feel like I was a part of this debate.
Panel session with Paulien Herder, Maarten Wetselar, Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher presented by Remel London, continues.
We see the panel sat in the centre of the studio with audience members in the foreground. In the background we see a large screen with the great energy debate upon it. To the left and right smaller screens show shots of the audience. We then cut to a shot of the presenter Remel London in the audience looking down towards the panel then turning to the camera.?
So I feel like we've got some heat going on, people want to ask questions.
We cut to show the fifth and sixth audience members talking into microphones surrounded by other audience members.
[Fifth Audience Member]
Why are we having this debate in 2019 when we’ve know about this issue since 1988?
Should we let oil and gas companies take the lead in the energy transition knowing that they have shareholders profit maximisation on the top of their agenda?
Typically investments in oil and gas have much higher returns than renewables how would oil and gas companies be able to leverage is on renewables?
We see close up pictures of Maarten Wetselaar intercut with a tracking shot of the panel from behind the audience. Tracking from right to left we see the panel through gaps between the heads.
Business has a big role to play in creating the future. But it does need to produce things that customers want to buy. And so it's an interplay between society, government and business that needs to get this energy transition going.
Close up from the side of audience member asking the question. She holds a mic. This is intercut with a shot flying away from a land based windmill with offshore windmills behind followed by a shot flying above a field of solar panels.
[Seventh Audience Member]
There's a lot of talk about switching to renewables and we should accelerate. A lot of critical materials are running out in ten, twenty years.
Close up on Paulien Herder intercut with shots of the audience listening,
The material issue, scarcity or impact on the environment is a very, very difficult and important and critical thing to research and to solve. So we need to diversify and find new ways and do research to reduce the materials that you need for each and every energy technology.
We see the audience clapping. Then cut to a third vox pop. A male delegate stands in front of the speech bubbles.
Voxs Pop of audience members continues.
[Third Vox Pop]
To tackle climate change, I think, bigger steps should be made by the government and more trust should be put in young people.
We see audience members smiling in close up and then a shot moving from left to right where they raise red and green paddles. There are more red than green paddles. The Great Energy Debate is written across a low wall in front of the audience. As Rameen Ghauri begins speaking we see here sat with three other audience members before cutting to her stood in front of the vox pop wall with speech bubbles behind her.
We all have a part to play in it and we just need to look forward and move towards a better future.
We see the final vox pop in front of the empty chairs in the auditorium. The lights are on we see empty chairs and the paddles sat on tables in front of the audience. The shots cut to a drone shot travelling over a solar farm, then a close up of the panels below the drone and back to the fourth vox pop interviewee.
[Fourth Vox Pop]
I think if we're going to reach the ambitious goals that we have set, for 2050, whether that’s in the UK or the Paris agreement, we have to somehow get carbon negative or carbon neutral energy sources.
A drone shot of a forest is cut to then a close up shot of a windmill against a blue sky. Then back to a field of trees looking down from above with the text CO2 appearing and disappearing over the trees. We then cut to a long shot of the panel and the audience from high above looking down from behind the panel and towards the audience. Then to Remel London stood in the audience with the audience behind her. She holds a microphone up and talks into this.
It's clearly been a great night of debate.
Georgie Barrat stands in front of the audience in a red jacket as the camera moves from left to right. She waves to us as she finishes her line we cut to a shot of the audience applauding. Then to a shot from high up behind the panel with the audience seated in front of them.
Thank you so much and I'll hopefully see you guys soon. The conversation should continue.
[Background music builds and increases in volume]
The film shows a shot of London from a drone, travelling over the suburbs and a church. Followed by an image of an offshore wind farm from the coast so we see a single foreground windmill on the land and the offshore windfarm beyond.
The future of energy
A drone shot rises from behind trees to reveal the canopy of a pine forest. Which cuts to the exterior of a tower block with about half the lights on. These are randomly distributed. We can see the balconys it is a wide shot.
is everyone’s business.
A time-lapse drone shot looking down on a city followed by a time-lapse of tower bridge in London with the sun setting behind the shard. Then a street scene of people in a market and a time-lapse on a large street with trees and tower blocks. A woman in a red jump suit and green safety helmet and ear defenders walks away from us through pipes and industrial looking area.
Continue the debate
The same woman climbs a flight of stairs. We see her from beneath the stairs with industrial oil rig like structures all around. A drone shot flies away from the woman revealing her amongst pipes and scaffolding. Followed by a shot from behind a windmill, which is turning, with green fields and a blue sky behind.
Join the conversation
We see three people walking through the middle of four rows of solar panels from above as the shot slowly rotates. Then we fly across the front of an offshore windfarm with a pink sky and blue sea with several windmills turning. They are white with a yellow base in the sea. This cuts to a shot of two men stood by an electric car charging station followed by an electric car having the plug put into it in close up.
Then a woman in a sari reaches up to turn a light on we see a close up of the bulb going on. The camera tracks along a set of solar panels.
Have your say
A wide shot looking down on solar panels then a time-lapse of a busy intersection in a modern city with pedestrian crossings and people waiting as cars cross the intersection the cars stop and pedestrians cross the intersection. Looking down on an intersection at night in time-lapse as cars streak across. We fly towards a windfarm rising above a green and verdant forest.
The Great Energy Debate
Audience at The Great Energy Debate at TUDelft, in the Netherlands.
Pauline Herder and Maarten Wetselaar at The Great Energy Debate, in the Netherlands
Audience member joins the conversation on Twitter using a mobile during the debate
Ozak Esu and Marco Visscher at The Great Energy Debate, in the Netherlands
Student at Imperial College London, in the UK
Live broadcast control room at The Great Energy Debate
Remel London during filming at TUDelft, in the Netherlands
Georgie Barrat during the debate at Imperial College London, in the UK
Students vote at a poll during the debate in TUDelft
Who is responsible for meeting rising energy demand while tackling climate change? How will the world get to net-zero emissions? What role does technology play? Is the energy industry part of the problem or the solution? Are changes happening fast enough?
These themes and more fuelled a lively discussion as students and online viewers challenged panellists from industry, academia and journalism.
Watch the full debate and continue the conversation on Twitter, just use #EnergyDebate.
TUDelft?is a major technology university in The Netherlands. Students and staff apply their expertise to tackle real-life challenges, from sustainable energy to future cities.
Imperial College London?in the UK is renowned for its high-impact research and attracts undergraduates from more than 125 countries. Energy is a key topic, from the physics of solar panels to the integrated energy system.
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A full professor in Energy Systems for the Faculty of Mechanical, Maritime and Materials Engineering (3mE) at Delft University of Technology. In her research, engineering sciences, as well as social and behavioural sciences, play an important role. She has an excellent international network of socio-technical systems scientists. Paulien is the director of the Delft Energy Initiative, a portal for about 1,000 energy researchers. It plays a co-ordinating role with respect to energy education. She is the Captain of Science of the Topteam Energy and a board member of the Dutch national science foundation’s domain for Applied and Engineering Sciences (NWO-TTW). In 2017, she was awarded the TU Delft Leermeesterprijs (Professor of Excellence Award) for excellence in research and teaching.
Shell’s Integrated Gas and New Energies Director and a member of the Royal Dutch Shell Executive Committee, Maarten has worked in various roles since joining the company in 1995. He holds a master’s degree in Economics from the University of Groningen and a post doctorate degree from VU University of Amsterdam in the Netherlands.
Born and raised in Nigeria, Ozak moved to the UK in 2008 to study for a degree in Electronic and Electrical Engineering at Loughborough University where she graduated with First Class Honours. She was then awarded a grant for her PhD, which included research into wind energy. In 2017, she was promoted to Electrical Engineer and received numerous awards, including the Institution of Engineering and Technology Young Woman Engineer of the Year. In 2019, she joined the Centre for Smart Homes and Buildings at BRE and the Construction Innovation Hub. She researches common challenges faced in the adoption?the Internet of Things and future technologies within the UK construction industry, while considering the wider implications of integrating smart buildings into the proposed smart grid, transport, infrastructure and city plans.
A Dutch, independent journalist. He writes for leading newspapers and magazines in both the Netherlands and Belgium, such as?de Volkskrant, Trouw, De Morgen?and?Humo. He is the author of the 2018 book?De energietransitie?on the energy transition from fossil fuels to renewables.?He’s the co-author of?Ecomodernisme,?a book on ecomodernism, an emerging movement?of environmentalists who argue humans can protect nature by using technology to decouple our impact from the natural world.?He’s the founder and curator of?Tegengeluid, a digital newsletter with introductions and links to the best unconventional ideas on the Internet.